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Subject: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:42 am
"We cannot let the terrorist achieve the objective of... frightening our nation to the point where we don't... Where people don't shop"
--George W. Bush
Surplus is an intense visual odyssey filmed for over three years in eight different countries. From the explosive riot days in Genoa 2001 to $7000 sex dolls in the US, Surplus explores the destructive nature of consumer culture. Stunning editing, integrated music and awesome cinematography turns the notion that 20% of the world is gobbling up 80% of its resources from pure statistics into an overwhelming emotional experience. The world was shocked when young protesters in Seattle, Genoa and Gothenburg attacked shop windows, cars and banks. Surplus sets off on a world journey seeking the answer to the question: why is the lifestyle of consumerism a source of such rage today? Against a familiar backdrop of cynical world leaders, corporate captains and Microsoft fanatics, the film focuses on the controversial anti-globalization, anarcho primitivist guru John Zerzan, whose call for property damage has inspired many to take to the streets.
The first video in Spanish and the rest of the film is in English. MUST WATCH.
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Subject: Re: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:46 pm
want to watch it so bad but can't at the moment tommorrow for sure!
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Subject: Re: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:30 pm
Its good
Seems like a fairly basic post modern attack on consumer culture - I think it could have explained a little a more of the logic behind anti-consumerism as opposed to going all subliminal. Subliminal messaging is ok so long as the viewer has a prior understanding - the problem is that alot of people end up not having a clue about what their advocating, and programs like this don't really help.'' ever meet the anti-capitalists who don't have clue why they hate capitalism ?''
Its like they know they hate capitalism but can't explain why exactly
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Subject: Re: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:04 am
Inkus2000 wrote:
Its good
Seems like a fairly basic post modern attack on consumer culture - I think it could have explained a little a more of the logic behind anti-consumerism as opposed to going all subliminal. Subliminal messaging is ok so long as the viewer has a prior understanding - the problem is that alot of people end up not having a clue about what their advocating, and programs like this don't really help.'' ever meet the anti-capitalists who don't have clue why they hate capitalism ?''
Its like they know they hate capitalism but can't explain why exactly
Good point. It was a good documentary for us though, and an even better work of art.
Inkus2000 Admin
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Subject: Re: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:35 pm
KenCat wrote:
Inkus2000 wrote:
Its good
Seems like a fairly basic post modern attack on consumer culture - I think it could have explained a little a more of the logic behind anti-consumerism as opposed to going all subliminal. Subliminal messaging is ok so long as the viewer has a prior understanding - the problem is that alot of people end up not having a clue about what their advocating, and programs like this don't really help.'' ever meet the anti-capitalists who don't have clue why they hate capitalism ?''
Its like they know they hate capitalism but can't explain why exactly
Good point. It was a good documentary for us though, and an even better work of art.
BTW - I disagree completely with anarcho-primitivism which that guy seems to be advocating. The people who advocate it seem to have little understanding of what it would entail.
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Subject: Re: Surplus -- Terrorized into being Consumers Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:52 pm
Inkus2000 wrote:
KenCat wrote:
Inkus2000 wrote:
Its good
Seems like a fairly basic post modern attack on consumer culture - I think it could have explained a little a more of the logic behind anti-consumerism as opposed to going all subliminal. Subliminal messaging is ok so long as the viewer has a prior understanding - the problem is that alot of people end up not having a clue about what their advocating, and programs like this don't really help.'' ever meet the anti-capitalists who don't have clue why they hate capitalism ?''
Its like they know they hate capitalism but can't explain why exactly
Good point. It was a good documentary for us though, and an even better work of art.
BTW - I disagree completely with anarcho-primitivism which that guy seems to be advocating. The people who advocate it seem to have little understanding of what it would entail.
I disagree with it as well, though the people (like Zerzan) know exactly what it would entail -- they favor it. I favor a very radical, environmental society but technology is key, especially that of communication. Books, wrenches, computers are all technology and are all useful.
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