hi everyone

hey, i just got a link to this site so i decided to make an accound. i like it because its still small, and since theres not many people, you can get to know everyones ideas better.

im a libertarian communism, although i see the ultimate goal as anarcho-communism, where you have no right to the fruit of your labour, instead, you have the right to satisfy all of your needs, be they physical or intellectual.
i started out with marxism and worked my way towards anarchism, which i found to be quite nice. im still learning though, and have much reading to do.

im a musician and im studying for an exam right now, so i wouldnt have much time to post here, but ill make an effort. next year ill be bussy with school and music (i play the violin). but after i finish all of that, i plan on becoming politically active.

god0fmusic wrote:

hey, i just got a link to this site so i decided to make an accound. i like it because its still small, and since theres not many people, you can get to know everyones ideas better.

im a libertarian communism, although i see the ultimate goal as anarcho-communism, where you have no right to the fruit of your labour, instead, you have the right to satisfy all of your needs, be they physical or intellectual.
i started out with marxism and worked my way towards anarchism, which i found to be quite nice. im still learning though, and have much reading to do.

im a musician and im studying for an exam right now, so i wouldnt have much time to post here, but ill make an effort. next year ill be bussy with school and music (i play the violin). but after i finish all of that, i plan on becoming politically active.

Welcome to the forum!
It seems many people start out as a form of a Marxist and slowly transition to Anarchism -- that's what I did.
If you need anything, just ask. And again, welcome. :]

KenCat wrote:

It seems many people start out as a form of a Marxist and slowly transition to Anarchism -- that's what I did

Heh, me too.

Nice to meet you god

god0fmusic wrote:

hey, i just got a link to this site so i decided to make an accound. i like it because its still small, and since theres not many people, you can get to know everyones ideas better.

im a libertarian communism, although i see the ultimate goal as anarcho-communism, where you have no right to the fruit of your labour, instead, you have the right to satisfy all of your needs, be they physical or intellectual.
i started out with marxism and worked my way towards anarchism, which i found to be quite nice. im still learning though, and have much reading to do.

im a musician and im studying for an exam right now, so i wouldnt have much time to post here, but ill make an effort. next year ill be bussy with school and music (i play the violin). but after i finish all of that, i plan on becoming politically active.

Nice, I'm learning as well to . Cheers Comrade!

I started out as an authoritarian liberal (about age 10), then became a backlash conservative (age 13), then became a neo-conservative (age 14), then an anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a green anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a liberal communist (age 16), a radical liberal (age 17), an authoritarian radical liberal (age 17), an anti-authoritarian radical liberal (age 18 ), a moderate liberal (age 19), a marxist liberal (age 20), a revolutionary communist (age 21), a moderate anarchist (age 22), a libertarian municipalist (age 22), an authoritarian revolutionary libertarian municipalist (age 22), a liberal anarchist (age 22), a revolutionary anarchist (age 23), a post-modern anarchist (age 23), a liberal post-modern anarchist (age 23), a revolutionary municipalist post-anarchist (age 24), a post-anarchist neo-existentialist (age 24).

Corrbrias wrote:

I started out as an authoritarian liberal (about age 10), then became a backlash conservative (age 13), then became a neo-conservative (age 14), then an anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a green anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a liberal communist (age 16), a radical liberal (age 17), an authoritarian radical liberal (age 17), an anti-authoritarian radical liberal (age 18 ), a moderate liberal (age 19), a marxist liberal (age 20), a revolutionary communist (age 21), a moderate anarchist (age 22), a libertarian municipalist (age 22), an authoritarian revolutionary libertarian municipalist (age 22), a liberal anarchist (age 22), a revolutionary anarchist (age 23), a post-modern anarchist (age 23), a liberal post-modern anarchist (age 23), a revolutionary municipalist post-anarchist (age 24), a post-anarchist neo-existentialist (age 24).

I've changed a lot, but I didn't record my changes..! I pretty much went to state socialism to non-state socialism (Anarchism / Anarcho Syndicalism).

Corrbrias wrote:

I started out as an authoritarian liberal (about age 10), then became a backlash conservative (age 13), then became a neo-conservative (age 14), then an anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a green anarcho-capitalist (age 15), a liberal communist (age 16), a radical liberal (age 17), an authoritarian radical liberal (age 17), an anti-authoritarian radical liberal (age 18 ), a moderate liberal (age 19), a marxist liberal (age 20), a revolutionary communist (age 21), a moderate anarchist (age 22), a libertarian municipalist (age 22), an authoritarian revolutionary libertarian municipalist (age 22), a liberal anarchist (age 22), a revolutionary anarchist (age 23), a post-modern anarchist (age 23), a liberal post-modern anarchist (age 23), a revolutionary municipalist post-anarchist (age 24), a post-anarchist neo-existentialist (age 24).

i think you have an obsessive compulsive personality, like me, and you have a tendencie to organize every aspect of your life. i can remember a lot of that stuff too, but i gave up on it now. i go with the moment more.

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Its not ocd its add I've told you that.

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

I've both heard and read excerpts from it, but I haven't read the whole text -- have you?

KenCat wrote:

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

I've both heard and read excerpts from it, but I haven't read the whole text -- have you?

yea

Do you read Chuang Tzu ?

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

I've both heard and read excerpts from it, but I haven't read the whole text -- have you?

yea

Do you read Chuang Tzu ?

Haven't heard of him. :[
Doy you recommend either?

Corrbrias wrote:

Its not ocd its add I've told you that.

i didnt say it was ocd, it's obsessive personality, nothting more. these names are just names given to symptoms. thats what a lot of shrinks dont realize unfortunately.

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

yea, i've read a really good version too, with some interesting explanations. in fact, like 2/3 of the book was an explanation to the tao te ching and the culture of the time.
the thing about taoists is that they were orginally authoritarian, in fact, they apoke a lot about how the elite should be open minded and allow his people to be as free as possible. but there would still be an elite. but if these people had gotten hold of modern ideas, they would probably lean towards anarchism.
taoism is more about the development of an individual though, like buddhism.

god0fmusic wrote:

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

yea, i've read a really good version too, with some interesting explanations. in fact, like 2/3 of the book was an explanation to the tao te ching and the culture of the time.
the thing about taoists is that they were orginally authoritarian, in fact, they apoke a lot about how the elite should be open minded and allow his people to be as free as possible. but there would still be an elite. but if these people had gotten hold of modern ideas, they would probably lean towards anarchism.
taoism is more about the development of an individual though, like buddhism.

Those were the principles of which I spoke of. Inner peace / inner god /etc.

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

Inkus2000 wrote:

KenCat wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

oh, yea, i kind of started as a taoist and then i realized that no government could really work. then i went on to marxism, and eventually to anarchism

Marxism to Anarchism for me, and I've almost always appreciated certain though general Taoist principles.

Have you read the Tao te Ching ?

yea, i've read a really good version too, with some interesting explanations. in fact, like 2/3 of the book was an explanation to the tao te ching and the culture of the time.
the thing about taoists is that they were orginally authoritarian, in fact, they apoke a lot about how the elite should be open minded and allow his people to be as free as possible. but there would still be an elite. but if these people had gotten hold of modern ideas, they would probably lean towards anarchism.
taoism is more about the development of an individual though, like buddhism.

Those were the principles of which I spoke of. Inner peace / inner god /etc.

Chuang Tzu is brilliant I recommend getting a translation of his text
He was Lao Tzu's disciple -

You read much Chinese philosophy ?

I read loads of it - Up until about two years ago it was all I was familiar with, then I started reading some western philosophy and just came across as somewhat empty - speculating on meaningless definitions and arguing over 'this' and 'that'.

I don't read that much Chinese philosophy, perhaps I should. I do know that I'm becoming increasingly interested about it. :]

Inkus2000 wrote:

Chuang Tzu is brilliant I recommend getting a translation of his text
He was Lao Tzu's disciple -

You read much Chinese philosophy ?

I read loads of it - Up until about two years ago it was all I was familiar with, then I started reading some western philosophy and just came across as somewhat empty - speculating on meaningless definitions and arguing over 'this' and 'that'.

i dont think anyone really knows if Lao Tzu really existed, especially since his name translates to something like "the old teacher". apparently the tao te ching is just a collection of texts.
at least this is what i have read.


kencat: its true that western philosophy is kind of empty. thats why i really only like Spinoza. anarchist philosophers are also good, but that's just because we are relying on these people for the buiding of our future world.

god0fmusic wrote:

Inkus2000 wrote:

Chuang Tzu is brilliant I recommend getting a translation of his text
He was Lao Tzu's disciple -

You read much Chinese philosophy ?

I read loads of it - Up until about two years ago it was all I was familiar with, then I started reading some western philosophy and just came across as somewhat empty - speculating on meaningless definitions and arguing over 'this' and 'that'.

i dont think anyone really knows if Lao Tzu really existed, especially since his name translates to something like "the old teacher". apparently the tao te ching is just a collection of texts.
at least this is what i have read.


kencat: its true that western philosophy is kind of empty. thats why i really only like Spinoza. anarchist philosophers are also good, but that's just because we are relying on these people for the buiding of our future world.

I don't like Confucius because he praises hierarchy and authoritarian relations .
Taoism on the other hand is pretty infallible.

I think western philosophy tries very hard to atach man made concept's to actual reality.

god0fmusic wrote:

i dont think anyone really knows if Lao Tzu really existed, especially since his name translates to something like "the old teacher". apparently the tao te ching is just a collection of texts. at least this is what i have read.

I have a copy if you'd like to read it. It's definitely worth looking at. Most of it sets me at ease and kinda gives me hope (however false it may be. But ignorance is bliss, eh?).

Anarchist.Dagger wrote:

god0fmusic wrote:

i dont think anyone really knows if Lao Tzu really existed, especially since his name translates to something like "the old teacher". apparently the tao te ching is just a collection of texts. at least this is what i have read.

I have a copy if you'd like to read it. It's definitely worth looking at. Most of it sets me at ease and kinda gives me hope (however false it may be. But ignorance is bliss, eh?).

You have a copy online??

I'm sort of influenced by taoism; I'm attracted to pantheism and I practice feng shui. I also read a taoist astrology book last night. I'm a triple water boar, with my hour being fire pheonix.

KenCat wrote:

You have a copy online??

No, i'm just a very nice guy and would be willing to send it through the mail.